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Korean A388 at Tokyo on Jul 21st 2011, engine pod strike
I don't know what was worse, scraping a brand new aircraft or there was only 168 people on board an aircraft that can hold 300+! (avherald.com) More...Marcus- Your absolutely right, I'd never thought of it like that. It did say that the next flight was delayed an hour but it went to its next destination. The runway crews confirmed it scraped the hell out of the runway. I hope we can find out more info later!
I really don't think the number of passengers had anything to do with this. I think you are going to find that lack of proper training and bad decision making we the main factors here. I have landed in crosswind before at Tokyo aboard a 747. Boy, when that bitch straightened up, we were all jerked around. I knew a pilot many years ago who used to train Chinese pilots and he told me that they would never listen to what he was instructing them to do. Korean pilots may just be as stubborn. Check this youtube video out. Good footage of A380 crosswind testing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXX23mD4OH8
Alistair: you are correct on all points. Crosswinds are there and you better damn well know how to FLY a plane to land a heavy in a bad one, ala the old Kaitak, and they say the new one is not much better. Whether a 747 or 757, you slip in at an angle into the wind and touch one main gear and let the wind jerk you around straight, then hope you are straight enough to set the rest of them down and stay straight for the rollout. There were many times when that airport has been conditionally closed and pilot was given a choice. You were own your own. They would give you the approach and clearance but tell you the windspeed and direction and you were own your own.
I can remember talking to one of Boeing's trainers in the KAL Hotel in Seoul in early 1970, as they were taking delivery on their 1st 747. He alluded to the stubborness of the pilots also. I was stationed over there and you could see it in the people. We kept them from speaking Chinese and they love our money, as far as working at the bases, but you meet one off base and they run from you like you have the plague. Still that way from what I hear.
I can remember talking to one of Boeing's trainers in the KAL Hotel in Seoul in early 1970, as they were taking delivery on their 1st 747. He alluded to the stubborness of the pilots also. I was stationed over there and you could see it in the people. We kept them from speaking Chinese and they love our money, as far as working at the bases, but you meet one off base and they run from you like you have the plague. Still that way from what I hear.
And regardless of whether you categorize all this with their official names of CRAB or De-CRAB, whichever is used. That is basically just the official name for what I said above, lest somebody get picky here.lol What am I thinking. Picky, our guys here on FA????? Nah.lol. What am I thinking.
All that official name is for is to describe in detail what you got to do to get to where I said. That being said, I think one of the comments in the article itself said that the A380 had a 40kt crosswind threshold and recommended level wings. That in itself is contrary to what most pilots have learned/been taught and if this is so, probably contributes to this strike.
All that official name is for is to describe in detail what you got to do to get to where I said. That being said, I think one of the comments in the article itself said that the A380 had a 40kt crosswind threshold and recommended level wings. That in itself is contrary to what most pilots have learned/been taught and if this is so, probably contributes to this strike.
How much is it going to cost to ground the bird for a week while they remove the engine to see if the plastic mounts are ok? New casing for the engines.. priceless!