American Airlines pilots subpoenaed by NTSB to give interviews in JFK near-miss

Thank you Chris.

Thank you sir. DM News has had a paywall for years so I knew that clicking the original link would be futile.

FYK there's a handy Chrome Extension named "Admiral Sucks!" that takes care of it on most pages (though not the New York Times).

They already are. They’re called CVR, FDR, FOQA.

Every breath you take… I’ll be watching you

Pretty strange that the airlines cannot/refuse to capture more than 2 hours on a CVR. Why not capture everything for the entire flight. I hope they are not using audio tape.

That is the job of the union. Other organizations have the job of protecting the public.

Well, keep in mind - a Delta flight rejected a takeoff at JFK to avoid a collision. The Delta returned to gate, it's flight was re-scheduled until next morning.

Yet the American Airlines flight (which encroached on an active runway) took off for Europe after a 30 minute wait.

Lo and behold - any pre-takeoff conversations in the AA cockpit voice recorder get overwritten, during the 6-hour flight to Europe. It's exactly such in-cockpit planning and discussions that NTSB needs to examine and publish lessons learned.

Well lets see, the tower only tells what goes out over the air not what is talked about in the cockpit thats the one which will tell things also.

I’ve never represented any union or members. Just an attorney for 44 years. But, union hires legal counsel & can fire legal counsel if they don’t like their legal advice, like anyone else who hires an attorney. If the client wants to try and cut a deal, the lawyer will do that. If the client decides to “delay, delay, delay”, their lawyer will do that (or resign). I’m still trying to figure out why their strategy is delay, since NTSB is going to have evidence from multiple sources to justify charge of reckless operation

I see you are not in a union

I'm not sure the safe action program applies in this case. The issue was a violation of some controller's instruction, with the violation detected by the controller in real-time (with some automated systems), and corrected by the controller in real-time (telling Delta to stop their TO roll), not in the realm of voluntary reporting of an undetected incident. This seems to be in the NTSB's jurisdiction for investigation. Besides, the NTSB only provides recommendations. It has no legal authority to impose those recommendations. Their probable cause opinions are inadmissible in court or other legal proceedings under the Federal Aviation Act, which make reluctance to be recorded a bit puzzling, unless their employer uses the incident against them.