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Airline announces it will now weigh PASSENGERS as well as their carry-on luggage

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An airline has announced it will begin weighing passengers with their carry-on luggage in order to better estimate the plane's weight before take-off. The controversial move comes from Finnish carrier Finnair, who told media they began 'measuring' passengers departing from Helsinki on Monday. Finnair, which services the UK with budget flights to and from Finland, noted in a statement airlines work out the weight of the plane, its interior and passengers on board to balance the… (www.dailymail.co.uk) More...

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Dedwards84
D Edwards 6
I am certain that people who are overweight are challenging the aircraft’s safe weight limits. Is necessary with the high percentage of overweight individuals.
JMARTINSON
JMARTINSON 1
so how much do the passengers contribute to the max take off weight of an airliner, anyway?
sparkie624
sparkie624 1
Kind of depends on the person... Some have more than others to add to it.. I am not sure what the average is now days, but it used to be set for 180 lbs per person. I do not know what the average passenger weight is now that they use.
JMARTINSON
JMARTINSON 1
Use whatever average passenger weight and whatever airliner you like.
jimquinndallas
Jim Quinn 5
This was a normal procedure during the airlines' early years when flying non-turbine aircraft. I remember a story that I read many years ago about one airline that hid scales pads under mats in front of the counter, thus providing passenger weight without their knowledge.
hangar14
Rick D 3
Well, let me weigh in on this subject...
brentaustinlee
Brent Lee 2
About damn time!
ExCalbr
Victor Engel 2
Boy what an annoying sight using a normal browser. I quit and opened in Brave which reports ads and trackers block. The count for this site was 93, I think the highest number I've seen since I started using that browser. The worst part was that the text kept jumping around as ads were added and/or dismissed.

Back to the subject of the article, I know they normally use average weights and general areas of the aircraft to estimate weight distribution and also assign seats for optimal weight distribution. So here is my question.

What happens with airlines such as Southwest that has open seating? With open seating, they can't enforce their desired distribution by assigning seats. Do they instead use some algorithm that's a good enough approximation?
RussellNelson
Russ Nelson 2
In my experience with dozens of flights with CapeAir, they always asked you to estimate your weight, so they would know where to seat you.
harriergnawing0c
Stef Lar 2
Given that this is voluntary I wonder how accurate this will end up being...
jbsimms
James Simms 5
I’m overweight, but I identify as weighing 150 pounds
sparkie624
sparkie624 2
I would like to see scales with 12 LED Displays lite bright showing the Weight...
sparkie624
sparkie624 2
Since Fuel Burn is based on Weight, you should have to pay your weight, plus the weight of you Baggage... Would be a much more fair system!
JMARTINSON
JMARTINSON 0
How about we go by IQ instead, then you could fly really cheap.
jerole
Jerole Nelson 1
you be you
alb8ros
FAY SMITH 1
My sister flew from IAD to SEA last week and the B737-900 was about 3/4 full. The passengers were moved around because of "weight issues". What if it had been 100% full?
blheadley
Bruce Headley 5
Too many empty seats in one section of a plane (front or back) would cause it to be out of balance.
mbrews
mbrews 1
If the airline is United airlines, they charge more for economy seats in the front half. If too few people choose to pay for those seats, the airplane will be " tail heavy ". So, they relocate passengers to achieve BALANCE.
yr2012
matt jensen 1
Flying in LATAM it was common to see pax bringing tv sets on board and try tostuffthem into overhead compartments. SANSA used to weigh pax - if you were over 110kg you had to buy an extra seat
Cleffer
Cleffer 9
This is flawed logic. As someone who is 6'5", am I expected to weigh the same as someone who is 5'5" to fit your "standards"?
Rodstein
Marc Rodstein 2
No, they are not going to exclude anybody. They just need to know how much weight they are carrying for safety erasons.
sparkie624
sparkie624 -1
yes - 5'5 or 6'5. If you are OBESE then you pay extra. If you cannot sit with the Armrest down comfortable, then it does not matter how tall you are.. Simply pay for 2 seats and and go... Not being Racist or Partial... If you are a Person Of Size, then you need to stand up to it and that includes the consequences. I have always believed that weighing everyone and pay accordingly. When you purchase your ticket, you enter your height and weight and compute your ticket that way. If you have to raise an armrest to be comfortable, you buy 2 seats. Fair for all... I remember once I was flying non-rev.... I was assigned the center seat. On each side there were 2 severely over beast people who could not sit without the armrest up. I was sitting at a 45 degree angle because I was non rev and no more seating... The Flight Attendant came back to me (who knew me as I commuted often at that time) and told me: "The Captain heard you were flying with us today and wondered if you would mind joining him in the cockpit for the flight"... LOL... I could not jump up and answer a quick enough... Got to the cockpit and the captain said: "I heard you were in quite a Squeeze Back There"... I told him "Yeah" .. "And Thanks" If those 2 had been required to go through the emergency exit door, they would not have made it... Not by a long shot!
Cleffer
Cleffer 1
"The Point" went about as far over your head as your flight.
sparkie624
sparkie624 -1
That is the best Idea around... (LOL have a large Display to Display the info). They should charge based on Weight... After all Airlines like Southwest being more Cattle Haulers, should weigh the beef and seat them In Accordance with Weight and Balance requirements.
btweston
btweston 2
Actually not a crazy idea
clarify
clarify 0
Let's also take the temperature of passengers before they board. Anyone w/ a fever would not be allowed on.
FlyRick23
Rick Green 0
Good. Check their BMI too. Gosh the amount of overweight people in this country is scary.

Better logic is to not fly commercial planes 100% full capacity but its all about those dollars and the shareholders!
Rodstein
Marc Rodstein 2
If the planes had to fly half empty, your fares would double.
sparkie624
sparkie624 3
That is why you should charge by the seat... If someone requires 2 seats, they pay for 2 seats. Problem Solved!
FlyRick23
Rick Green 1
Very possible for sure but IMHO, it might be worth it!

Less seatmates, less stinky passengers and their stinky carry on food, faster boarding and deplaning. Faster service time by flight attendents. No brainer to me if you can justify the cost.
jbsimms
James Simms 1
So if you, Rick; had a condition that caused you gain weight & difficult to lose weight, you’d be banned from flying….
FlyRick23
Rick Green 1
I don’t ever recall saying someone should be banned from flying based on weight

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