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British airlines forced to fly planes to US for repairs because of Brexit rules

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British airlines are being forced to fly planes to the United States for slower and more expensive repairs instead of Europe because of Brexit rules. The UK and EU, despite having largely identical safety rules, have two separate licensing systems for maintenance facilities. Following a two-year post-Brexit grace period which ended in 2023, any UK-registered aircraft cannot be legally repaired at EU-licensed facilities. Now British companies have been flying their planes thousands of miles… (www.msn.com) More...

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dvbavcon
Dean Brossman 20
The issue is that the EU has not entered into a reciprocal agreement with the UK. I do not know who is to blame. Without that reciprocal agreement, repair stations on EASA are not certified to work on UK registered aircraft. The market in the UK is too small to make it economically feasible for the EASA Repair stations to get a UK Repair Station Certificate which would allow them to work on the UK aircraft.
scooke7
Steve Cooke 26
This article and the comments here are quite hilarious.The article, despite the headlines, is not airlineS. But it is just 1 airline. That too a cargo airline which operates 2 TWO cargo B747s.
It would appear that this airline, One Air, acquired 1 B747 in 2022 & the other in 2023. So, that's after Brexit & after the COVID pandemic. Both aircraft were initially delivered to Air Canada in 1991. And they were in storage after changing ownership several times, Both are 33 years old.

One Air started operations in 2023. Before/after Brexit comparison or COVID pandemic would be blatantly disingenuous.

Never mind, it also doesn't state the timeframe of the costs comparison or the exchange rate used to calculate the difference. Also, there is gap of 2 years between detailed checks. Is it the expectation that costs stay the same between 2 years for 30+ year old aircraft?

As for One Air, a smart way to do this maintenance might be to do it when their operations take them to the USA anyway. So, the timeworn "killing 2 birds with 1 stone" approach. Not rocket science!


All in all, a pretty shoddy piece of journalism that is typical for British media organisations. They have an agenda & they fit the "facts" according to their agenda.

Before EASA came into existence in 2002, there was only the American FAA certification. Did airlines not operate before that? Also, EASA is not free of membership costs even for the countries in the EU. EASA is an unnecessary organisation that merely exists to rubber-stamp FAA approvals & to take over the national certification of individual EU countries.

Every country outside the EU pays for EASA certification & has it own certification & approval process too. Why should the UK be any different? Just because it's NEAR EU? Even Russia is NEAR EU by that logic!

Anyways, carry on.
clarify
clarify 3
Actually it applies to "any UK-registered aircraft". To make the ramifications more understandable, they describe the implications for one example, in this case One Air.

But this sentence is pretty clear: "Following a two-year post-Brexit grace period which ended in 2023, any UK-registered aircraft cannot be legally repaired at EU-licensed facilities."
flybd5juan
Juan Jimenez -1
You have no clue what you are talking about. But sure, carry on, like all the other fools who voted for Brexit. 🤣🤣🤣
Arm1
Armond Matevosian 1
So tell us oh wise one..
Nooge
Nooge -1
Old people think it was a good idea It was not wise

Trump reinforces support for Brexit and praises UK’s outgoing May
Kevin Liptak
By Kevin Liptak

While he professed to be wary of taking opinions on Britain’s internal matters, Trump predicted Brexit would and should happen – and said May had “brought it to a very good point where something will take place in the not too distant future.”


“This is a great, great country and it wants its own identity,” Trump said. “It wants to have its own borders. It wants to run its own affairs. This is a very, very special place and I think it deserves a special place.”


Share of people who think Brexit was the right or wrong decision 2024, by age group
Published by D. Clark, Jul 4, 2024

As of February 2024, a significant majority of young Britons thought that leaving the EU was the wrong decision, with 70 percent of 18 to 24 year-old's and 66 percent of 25 and 49 year-old's regretting the decision. By contrast, 56 percent of those aged of 65 thought that Brexit was the right decision.
johntaylor571
John Taylor 0
So Britain does no trade with the EU since they're so close to them? Because they refused to pay the danegeld to Frau Von der Leyen, then Brits will be made to pay the consequences.
Nooge
Nooge 3
Brexit is the reason the UK is to pay the consequences.
tombrown42
Thomas Brown 6
Maybe they need to build a facility in the UK. Or join with the other airlines with whatever they’re doing.
cordery
Alan Cordery 9
Brexit, the great stupidity that keeps on giving.
onetell99
Philip Taylor 7
This is a politically motivated story by a right wing newspaper that can’t get over the UK leaving the EU. Not that I agree with the decision but it’s a sad fact. It is only one very small airline with TWO planes. The major UK airlines don’t seem to have this “problem “
grandpa07
Gary Berrian 2
Philip,
I totally agree that this is a cheeky article.All of BA's 747-400's are retired and not many left flying by the majors in the world.
Cheers,
GB
flybd5juan
Juan Jimenez -1
LMAO! Sounds like you're in the throes of a major case of butthurt!
brentaustinlee
Brent Lee 1
Verdad!
sam14iam
Peter Scott 13
Correction....100% English made disaster.
siriusloon
siriusloon 17
Once again, the old adage "be careful what you wish for" is proved.
allanrbowman
Allan Bowman 15
Brexit, the gift that keeps on giving. A 100% British made economic and trade disaster.
fredwyse
fred wyse 4
This is an international issue. Not a Brexit issue. We fly in the airspace over all nations thanks to the grace, largesse and kindness of the nation being overflown. With a single stroke of a pen this pansy brinksmanship which is less classy than a high school locker room squabble can be stopped. There are exceptions to all laws and the safety of the flying and the overflown are primary and all governments must stop this deadly stalemate. The result of this child's play will be a man made air disaster...not an accident.
fdb912
Frank Barrett 9
Brexit was passed by men in pubs, grumbling into their beers. Racism was a factor, along with the "put-upon" attitude taken by adherents of The Orange Man in the U.S.
jmadunleavy
John D -3
Indeed. Well said.
godutch
godutch -5
Two more race baiters with TDS.
Nooge
Nooge 1
The Commander in Cheat is behind a lot of the hate

Stand Back and Stand by your chance to try and overturn another election is coming


This time the Capitol will be defended with weapons
ewrcap
ewrcap -5
I believe the derangement is obvious on the MAGA side. But it could probably be cured with Ivemectin and bleach injections.
jmadunleavy
John D -2
MAGA's could earn PhD's in projection, for sure.
Rodstein
Marc Rodstein -3
Your hated is showing too
jmadunleavy
John D 1
Nah, we don’t hate ya. We just think you are full of crap.
Rodstein
Marc Rodstein -4
Your hatred is showing.
Nooge
Nooge 2
Hate showing

The ‘total and complete shutdown’ of Muslims entering the U.S.
‘Laziness is a trait in blacks’
They’re rapists ... some, I assume, are good people’
jdriskell
James Driskell 5
Brexit, How to cut off your nose!
jmadunleavy
John D 5
Chickens coming home to roost, again! What a huge blunder. Johnson did the UK terrible.
godutch
godutch -6
It's called freedom...and independence.
tpmorrow
tpmorrow 9
No, it’s called foolishness based on hysterical arguments (“We’ll save XXX billions of pounds that can be funneled to the NHS; we can finally control our borders; Brussels can no longer dictate XYZ; and so on), that the overexcited and simple-minded found, predictably, convincing.
The UK already benefitted from a range of exceptions to rules that applied on the Continent. And look where they are now. They’ve voluntarily relinquished their considerable soft power.
But look at the big picture, the historical picture. The consequences of Brexit are much worse than issues like airplane maintenance: In the aftermath of the WWII, the countries of the Warsaw Pact, under the thumb of the Soviet Union, could only watch in envy as the western European countries, including Great Britain, began their project to form the EEC and what is now the EU. And then those former Warsaw Pact countries gained their freedom and made it into the club. Look at the prosperity it brought. Germany was the powerhouse, France a prime mover, but Great Britain was the standard bearer of all that was good in the post-war world. And then they turn their back on the whole thing. What must these nations think? And who will take advantage of this chink in both the EU’s and Great Britain’s armor? Guess.
So “freedom…and independence” in this case is simply a hollow, fuzzy-warm feel-good phrase and is meaningless in this context.
Brexit has a detrimental affect on all of us in the West, not just UK citizens.

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sukie9
That's good for the environment!
brentaustinlee
Brent Lee 1
I opine it’s not anything more than bureaucratic ineptitude & critical thinking ability. There’s nothing any government can’t or won’t screw up. The UK is a COUNTRY, not a STATE. We’d no more give up our USA sovereignty than the UK would or should. The pool of understanding of this matter is shallow…
Arm1
Armond Matevosian 1
Wow this is prime example of human stupidity. These stupid, fake, mad made barriers that have absolutely no place for anyone at any time. Embarrassing to be part of this species honestly. Beyond stupid.
avionik99
avionik99 -5
Wow! Is the EU all butt hurt much??

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jetjocknj
jetjocknj 0
Anther Brexit f***up brought to you by that idiot faker Boris Johnson and the clueless Tories. It will take a generation to undo their damage!
CHRISMORGAN
CHRIS MORGAN 4
The New Business Index for the UK is currently at 54.9. The biggest Eurozone economies, Germany and France, are at only 52.5 and 50.1 and since Brexit the UK has grown from the 7th largest global economy to the 4th largest.
If that is a f***up I wonder what success would look like.
jetjocknj
jetjocknj 17
I looked for "The New Business Index" online, and it is not there, which undoubtedly tells us something about this "organization's" bona-fides and credibility. Wikipedia weighs in with the following (among several other conclusions): "In October 2021, the UK government's Office of Budget Responsibility calculated that Brexit would cost 4% of GDP per annum over the long term.[51] 4% of 2021 UK GDP is the equivalent of a £32 billion cost per annum to the UK taxpayer.[52] On January 11, 2024, the London Mayor's Office released the "Mayor highlights Brexit damage to London economy".[56] The release cites the independent report by Cambridge Econometrics that London has almost 300,000 fewer jobs, and nationwide two million fewer jobs as a direct consequence of Brexit.[56] Brexit is recognized as a key contributor to the 2023 cost-of-living crisis with the average citizen being nearly £2,000 worse off, and the average Londoner nearly £3,400 worse off, in 2023 as a result of Brexit.[56] In addition, UK real Gross Value Added was approximately £140bn less in 2023 than it would have been had the UK remained in the Single Market.[56]" You should read the whole thing.
johntaylor571
John Taylor -1
Wikipedia as a non biased reference? Hahahahahahahaha!! You've got to be kidding me. If the subject is even the slightest bit controversial, it'll always take the hard left slant and disparage anything that could be remotely called "conservative". Now pull the other one, it has bells on it.
jetjocknj
jetjocknj 3
These are statistics based on serious econometrics and not opinion, and they cannot tbe refuted. Wikipedia contributers are realy smart people who have got their facts amd science right. And, FYI, it really can't be helped that liberalism is highly correlated with intelligence. Deal with it.

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tpmorrow
tpmorrow 14
Not sure how your American terms really apply here, or which of the above comments you agree with, actually.
fairalbion
Andrew Crane -8
MSN eh... crayons, sippy cups, and participation trophies for writin' real good.
johntaylor571
John Taylor -5
All of these Brexit whiners here. It surprises me how many hard lefies inhabit this site. Sounds more like the Euro's have a bad case of spite. You will have nothing, eat the bugs and be happy. And when the EU decides that flying is killing Mother Gaia and makes you take trains or ride bicycles, you can take the Chunnel to England and catch your holiday fights from there. Just make sure you can find a charging station for your firetrap EV.
Arm1
Armond Matevosian -1
What makes you think your government gives a rats behind about you?? Lol...please. And don't be so dumb....you think not respecting your environment is a good thing? You sh*t where you eat is that it?

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