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United Airlines Flight Makes Emergency U-Turn After Passenger’s Laptop Falls Into Cargo Hold

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A United Airlines flight from Washington Dulles to Rome was forced to make an unexpected mid-flight U-turn on October 15, 2025, after a passenger’s active laptop slipped through the cabin and fell into the aircraft’s cargo hold — creating a potential lithium battery fire hazard that pilots deemed too risky for a transatlantic flight. (airguide.info) More...

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xtoler
Larry Toler 34
I'm still trying to figure out how the laptop can go from the pax deck to the cargo deck.
TimDyck
Tim Dyck 18
It actually one of the first things that popped into my mind when I started reading the article. If a laptop can slip through what else can? If there is a danger of fire in the cargo hold then this needs to be fixed before someone accidentally or purposely drops something down there that leads to a fire in the cargo hold.
alanhewat
Alan Hewat 16
Apparently there's a small hidden air vent on the floor between 787 Polaris seats and the cabin wall to equalise pressure in the cargo hold, and it was probably an ultrathin laptop. A freak accident that wasn't foreseen when planes were designed and laptops/phones were bigger. Maybe it's worth fixing.
masmith57j
Matt Smith 3
A simple Screen ~ 6mm / 1/4" wire mesh would prevent this. lightweight, fireproof and cheap.
EB333
Erik Bruner 0
This was a 767... so your point is moot.
EB333
Erik Bruner 6
I agree... When I consider the number of C checks (mostly Boeing aircraft) I've been involved in, there is no possible way for something the size of a standard laptop to pass through.
It's hard enough to get peanuts out of that space let alone pass a laptop.
sparkie624
sparkie624 4
That was my first thought.. I know on the older 747's they could climb down into the cargo hold if needed, but it was not an area where something could just drop through... Something about that story is not 100%...
Sailor48
Peter Gardner 2
Yep that was my question also. the article says it went down the side panel? Is there a space behind the interior side panels that extends below the floor?
fmdalcin
Felipe Dalcin 0
Dodgy old B767 with gaps in the panels.
TimDyck
Tim Dyck 3
Fly on some of the older planes used by discount airlines in the north and those gaps are big enough for a toddler to fall through.
Just kidding, a bit of an exaggeration but it is true that some of those planes have huge gaps in the panels.
kenhash
Kenneth Hash 0
If the interior panels were that mis positioned, I would have just forcefully removed them and retrieved the laptop. Maybe this wasn't possible but sometimes you have to be resourceful and do what needs to be done. Within reason of course.
bcarlson56649
Bob Carlson 6
I always assumed that the cargo area was completely isolated from the cabin so that smoke/fire/fumes in cargo would be kept from entering the cabin as long as possible.
brwitte1
Barry Witte 3
As I recall, there was a DC-10 loss where the cargo door was not latched properly. When the door opened at altitude, the aft cargo hold depressurized. This was Turkish Air 981. The deck between the hold and pax cabin was not designed to be strong enough to withstand the pressure differential, and the pax deck collapsed into the cargo hold. That took with it all of the empannage flight control cables, which were routed under the pax deck. The plane crashed with all onboard lost. McDonald-Douglass' design solution was to incorporate pressure equalizing vents from the pax cabin to the cargo holds to prevent a similar accident. This may be the design intent on the 787 as well. Can anyone say for sure?
lordfarringdon
lordfarringdon 4
Rather than vents, it was blow out panels that was considered the fix for this issue. A blow out panel was effectively a designed weak point that separated the cabin from the cargo hold. If pressure differential exceeded a certain limit, the panel's collapse would act as a pressure relief valve. Importantly, the panels were designed into areas that their destruction would not cause any damage to passengers, flight control or engine control systems should they blow out.

As to venting cabin air into the cargo hold, I recall from my B727 days that cabin air was vented through floor level grills and then ran down the outside of the cargo hold liners which in turn kept the cargo hold warm. The cargo holds were both pressurized from the the two aircon packs. However one pack sent air into the fwd equipment bay and the warm air was then passed to the forward cargo hold. Since live animals were often carried in the forward cargo hold, a disabling of this pack for any reason could be fatal to the live cargo.

I suspect the 787 might have a similar system although I have no idea why such vents are not protected by floor grills as they were on the B727.
jmilleratp
jmilleratp 0
This is why quality at Boeing dropped the second they bought out McDonnell-Douglas and took on their engineers.
ddbguru
Ben Seidman 2
At the time the flight turned around, the closest major airport was Boston. Then, they overflew Newark to go back to Dulles. As a major UA hub, EWR maintenance staff could retrieve the laptop and shorten the delay incurred by the passengers. If the laptop were considered a hazard, I would expect the Captain to want to get the plane on the ground sooner rather than later.
jrsinger
John Singer 2
Whoa - a lot of questions on this one. I agree with the others posting here. How did this happen. Seams like a laptop falling into the cargo deck is least of their problems.
TimDyck
Tim Dyck 2
The number of Lithium Ion batteries in personal devices are expected to triple in the next 2 years and with many of these in relatively cheap items like e-cigarettes and kids toys it’s safe to bet they will be made cheaper and with less safeties in place to prevent thermal runaway. That laptop, like smart phones and other more expensive items have circuits in them to greatly reduce thermal runaway so although they still present a danger they are not the big danger, it’s cheap electronics that led to an annual 2,600 lithium battery-related fire incidents were reported in the United States alone last year. And fire departments struggle with how to put out a fire that actually burns hotter when water is added and gives off toxic chemicals that can be absorbed through your skin.
In the north it’s a constant challenge as people continue to pack items into checked baggage that they are not even aware have lithium ion batteries in them. So far we’ve been lucky, a few close calls but no tragedies, but how long will this last? The Transport Safety Board reported a 30% increase in lithium battery fire incidents aboard aircraft from 2017 to 2021. Sooner or later one of these batteries is going to take down a plane.
v1v2
Jim Ward 7
Excessive pressure can physically damage the internal components of a lithium-ion battery, leading to internal short circuits, which can cause a rapid release of energy and lead to fire or explosion.
Minto31
Ian Murray 5
It has already happened; Sept 2010 UPS boeing 747
kenhash
Kenneth Hash 3
The most hazardous cargo in our present times. If they don't stay on top of this, it will likely happen again.
Sailor48
Peter Gardner 3
Sadly yes i agree with you. Not only do some not realize they have a Lithium Battery in their gadget. How many deliberately pack them in their checked baggage. They can deal with them in the Cabin to some degree but not so much in the Cargo Hold. Yes and Lithium reacts with water making it difficult to deal with in enclosed spaces.
kenhash
Kenneth Hash 1
As you pointed out, these Lithium powered devices are now commonplace and are sure to become more numerous. My first thought is to add more small fire extinguishers (of the appropriate type) to the cabin area. Thinking outside of the box, and I know it sounds a little bizarre, design and install a small emergency ejection port on the aircraft to use in emergencies of this kind. Have some 'grappling tongs' to grab the device and dispose of it.
TimDyck
Tim Dyck 1
Lithium Ion Batteries experiencing thermal runaway are very hard to extinguish using conventional fire extinguishers. The problem is that it is a combination of chemical, metal and electrical fires all at once with some added plastic and whatever other combustibles that are close by. Having unfortunately witnessed one and trying unsuccessfully with multiple dry chemical extinguishers to put it out I learned a few valuable lessons.
1 they react badly to water and actually burn more intensely if you throw them into a pail of water.
2 when you think they are out they suddenly start up again.
3 they are hot enough to melt a metal pail and damage cement floors.
4 everything I though I knew about putting out fires was totally useless.
I used to be part of a volunteer fire fighting organization in our community, I have been to house fires, car fires, forest fires…etc and the little battery for my electric drill got the best of me. If it happened on an aircraft it would be a disaster.
babaganoosh
mike Renna 0
NOT meaning to be argumentative... but just recently I thought I read that water WAS ok / even good for lithium ion battery fires?

A quick google comes up with... it's ok? (but yeah, you can find anything on the web...)

Yes, elemental lithium reacts with water. But the lithium in a battery isn't elemental lithium? 'as the lithium is in the form of a salt electrolyte, not pure metal'

https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/290443/water-on-li-ion-battery-fire-good-idea-bad-idea-or-neutral
QuiGonJohn
My take is a lot of this concern over lithium batteries is being too over-cautious. Could they catch on fire, probably. But what is the real percentage of ones that have caught on fire compared to the total number of such batteries being transported around by all the public. I think that number is probably infinitesimally small.
TimDyck
Tim Dyck 1
Our volunteers fighter training was to never use water. Dry Chemicals or the new fire extinguishers that are designed for battery fires. That is for small batteries, electric vehicles use foam, lots of it and keep it covered with foam at least 4 hours as they tend to relight. I don’t do any actual firefighting anymore as it has affected my lungs but I go to accidents where my first aid training is needed. EVs involved in an accident we assume they are going to burst into flames without warning.
Y2KRene
Rene Kunz 1
If the FAA, the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) and the European Union Aviation Safety Agency (EASA) will not implement laws, that commercial airlines are banned from now on, to allow laptops or any other devices on board (or as freight) that contain Lithium (Lithium-ion) batteries, or having the ability to being charged on board. How many more incidents, or major crashes (South African Airways Flight 295),suspected to be caused by such batteries, are required until preventive actions are taken?
amslays
What that is crazy
ScottBaysinger
Tim, you mention "in the north" on two occasions. What's this about? The north of what? And what about the east?
TimDyck
Tim Dyck 2
I work throughout Northern Canada and occasionally Alaska. A lot of Dash 8s, ATRs (I am not fond of those), Beachcrafts, King Airs, Otters and other short takeoff turboprops.
QuiGonJohn
John Connaughton -3
Seems dumb to have turned around, wasting tons of money and everyones time. Laptop had to go thru security. Shoulda just had someone retrieve it after arrival.

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