After Alaska Airlines planes bump runway, a scramble to ‘pull the plug’

No shade on the airlines or Boeing, but the FAA likely won’t do anything until a plane full of passengers goes down. Then the finger pointing will start, & we all know a likely target…..

When the system became busy at peak tribes? Now that's bloody frightening... And reveals downright shitty coding. You don't hear about computations being off at even the 10th decimal place in banking or medical at peak usage. Smh

I wouldn't exactly say that the pilots "missed it" or made any mistakes in this case, since we've relied upon automated performance data for many decades and, especially with today's high tempo operations, there is little time for crews to independently verify all of the data. Your observation in regards to single pilot operations is spot on. If four pilots "missed" it, what chance does a single pilot have?

Or Las Vegas when it's 118 in the shade!

I just want to clarify an easily verifiable fact, that you’re referring to Pete Buttigieg, the guy being blamed for the safety regulations rolled back/eliminated by the last administration, correct?

I'm guessing he mandated using this software ...

The crew issue is the Class 1’s ( the seven-soon to be six; major railroads have adopted Precision Scheduled Railroading (PSR). This involves combining several small trains, or two medium sized trains into 10,000-15,000+ trains. Not standing up for Norfolk Southern, but there’s no way a two person up front can look back 10-15,000 to see a problem.

This all started in the 1980’s when train crews went from five people to the current two people; it also eliminated the caboose & the two people there that might have seen the problem. In addition to cutting train crews, they’ve cut car, track, & signal maintainers. There’s so much pressure to get trains out, trains are leaving yards w/out proper maintenance not are they properly put together. More times than not, trains are leaving w/empty & light weight cars up front & loads behind that causes derailments if taken around a sharp curve (stringlining).

On top of that, when the chinese flu hit, more crews & support people were cut, all the way into the bone. Because of crew shortages, the Class 1’s imposed Draconian attendance policies, crews can’t get off for family sicknesses, emergencies, family events like children getting married or the Death of a family member.

One railroader was chastised & almost written up because he attended the funeral of his Father. ‘Furloughed’ (laid off) aren’t coming back when given the opportunity opting for lessor pay & a stable family life. New hires take six months to fully train, but aren’t fully ‘trained’ until two years pass. Many new hires work for a while & say to heck w/it after only a few months.

You know there’s a problem when people making $90-125,000/ year quit w/20 or 25 years in, not long before retiring w/a very handsome retirement package.

Phil: Railroad defect detectors (the devices that defect the hot wheels and bearings and other deficiencies, such as something hanging down under a railcar) are placed solely at the discretion of the operating railroad. Both their frequency along a rail route and the thermal categories which prompt different levels of alert and subsequent action by the train's operators are also at the railroad's discretion and are not consistent even among the the five class I railroads in the U.S.: BNSF, UP, CSX, NS, CN.

At least, the head of NTSB is attempting to curtail all the false information and finger pointing, as in Larry's treatise. Here's quote from her statement.

Homendy then tweeted: "That leads me to my last point: anyone speculating about what happened, didn’t happen, or should've happened is misleading a suffering community -- PLEASE STOP SPREADING MISINFORMATION."

The NTSB chair addressed speculation that a rule on electronically controlled pneumatic (ECP) breaks -- if implemented -- would have prevented the train derailment, which she said was "FALSE."

"The ECP braking rule would've applied ONLY to HIGH HAZARD FLAMMABLE TRAINS. The train that derailed in East Palestine was a MIXED FREIGHT TRAIN containing only 3 placarded Class 3 flammable liquids cars," she tweeted. "This means even if the rule had gone into effect, this train wouldn't have had ECP brakes."

Finally, Homendy urged members of the public to let her agency lead the investigation.

"Anything else is harmful -- and adding pain to a community that’s been through enough," she tweeted. "But…if this derailment has moved you to want to become a safety investigator, we'd love to have you at the NTSB."

So Rump giving out trillions in PPP money is different than the college dept payoff how?

Thanks George for your thoughts…but I’m not the one confused here. In the case of college debt, the actual plan, if implemented will put billions back into the economy when these little people who got duped by ersatz online ‘universities’ (often little more than a mailbox and completely automated and auto-graded online “thin learning” nonsense…generating nearly worthless newly invented majors such as ‘assistant services manager’ or whatever) are finally able to get back on their feet. The commodification of higher education by cheesy profiteers is the real culprit here…they should be exposed and shut down. So no, I don’t think Biden did anything wrong. Next, we know how much silly Wealthfare goes to the country club, mostly Republican fat cats who pay few taxes and live off of government payments in the form of tax expenditures (write offs) for golf outings, lift tickets, exclusive off the grid hunting lodges, corporate jet subsidies (the most polluting form of travel per passenger mile), calling their yachts that sleep six or more their ‘second homes’ and deducting interest on home loans, or inner city top of the towers condo dwellers claiming they are ‘farmers’ or ‘ranchers’…this is the bullish-t that leads me to not worry so much about Biden giving help to those who are trying to better themselves…I don’t blame them for enrolling in newly formed fake academies. As for being brainwashed, sorry but the entire global media, save for a few outliers mostly Fox and a.m. radio, agree with with I’m writing…even the Wall Street Journal admits to what I’ve written here. Normal emotional grownups who didn’t quit reading in the fifth grade and voted Trump off of our island are not to blame…it’s the greed weasels in the profit sector and poorly educated Maga bubbas and bubbettes who don’t read and got completely bamboozled by Captain Chaos (Trump) who have screwed up America and may yet destroy it with their assault weapons taking out our little school children…what a dystopian Trump-tastrophy!

Go build a fence around your house and stay there

The political nonsense here as gotten so bad I try to visit as little as possible. And hard to fathom in that aviation as we know it in the modern world would have never gotten off the ground (pun intended) if it hadn't been for the worldwide governmental intervention and regulation necessary to have an orderly, safe airspace. Just try to imagine all flights operating on VFR only.

Well, it is an amazing piece of prose that rivals Shakespeare that probably needs repeated, even if it is factually wrong nonsense ad drivel.