Video: Delta Boeing 757 and a single-engine Cessna almost collide over Orlando

TCAS 11 is suppressed on the ground and at very low altitudes to prohibit an RA that could lead to a CFIT result. Hats off to a GA guy with excellent SA that may or may not have prevented a midair collision, but certainly pointed out some of the holes in the ATC system! To include the new progressive hire controllers that went to Starbucks before the start date, not UNDAK or Embrey-Riddle ATC lab courses.

https://skybrary.aero/articles/tcas-ii-activation

There's more than 2 tower controllers at a lot of airports. There's probably more than 2 operating MCO at peak times.

I mean can you imagine running the KATL tower at 5pm by yourself lmao.

Sterile cockpit in Class A.

That's a pretty big if. I believe that ATC has separation responsibilities until both pilots are notified and call traffic in sight. Then ATC says "maintain visual separation..." and it's see and avoid. From the audio, it doesn't sound like that happened.

Did I not hear the 172 pilot say "Shut up" ! ??

Some food for thought MB. You are smack dab in the middle of the most likely to have a fatal accident per total flight time period. Per FAA and NTSB stats. I wouldn't take it lightly.

https://www.faa.gov/data_research/research/med_humanfacs/oamtechreports/2010s/media/201503.pdf

Not necessarily a critique on you, maybe just an FYI.

Never, never record something that you do not want the Chineese, the hackers or someone with a warrant to see....

Correct but not sure they reported in sight to ATC. NO?

The start of the new hire screw up was initiated back in Dec 2004, not 2017. Then in Dec 2013 the FAA made the actual changes to the hiring process...changes that were questioned, rightfully so, right away.

"The old requirements to become an air traffic controller required applicants to earn an FAA-accredited degree from a Collegiate Training Initiative (CTI) program through a two- or four-year university. Then, potential air traffic controllers were required to take a rigorous computer-based Air Traffic Selection and Training (AT-SAT) exam, an eight-hour test that included hands-on application problems, multi-tasking games and control scenarios that one could possibly encounter on the job. If the applicant received higher than an 85 score on the exam, he or she would be considered “well qualified” to become an air traffic controller and would be likely to be hired by the FAA. (A 100 is the highest possible score.) The FAA changed its hiring policies on Dec. 30, 2013. The new hiring practices allowed “off the street hires” where the only requirements to apply for a job as an air traffic controller are to be an English-speaking U.S. citizen with a high school diploma, and to pass the FAA’s new exam, the Biographical Questionnaire (BQ), which replaced the AT-SAT exam."

This hiring debacle began under oblunder!

Have you ever flown a heavy? Based on your remarks I think NOT… better stick to your Cessna and uncontrolled airports.

Sure, until in aviation there are qualifications OTHER than skills at the helm that come into play in the hiring process. We have already seen this in the US Military and some commercial carriers...using ANYTHING other than actual skill of flying a plane will cause more incidents like the one in the story (and, to that, we can include ATC in the picture as it was ATC who caused this). Beyond that, get over it...

It appears you need glasses and a hearing aid as well. The Cessna had just departed MCO 36L

He was IFR cleared to depart on that heading. Controller dropped the ball. Maybe read before commenting.

Here's some glasses, and a hearing aid, so you can read the report and listen to the audio.